• I’d say, Billy, that there’s a major difference in the perception of justice when you involve the religious freedom component. To put that into the same context as OJ Simpson, however, …which in my view is a connection that cannot be ignored… is something else, again.   Of course this is the same point I made with Dale Franks, last January. And as I said then, Simpson’s “Jury nullification was done on moral ground, too”. Now, if you want to view murdering your wife as a religious experience… (Chuckle)  Sorry, I hold to what I said then.

    …regardless of which direction you chose, to avoid imposing change, you’ll have to go about changing minds, so that people are on board…….If our libertarian purist friends feel drug laws are unnecessary, then work through the system to change that problem. That is a process that involves changing minds. That also takes time.

    Now; that they seem to have some problems with the mind-changing process would seem unquestionable. Then again, looking at the exchange of insults at this place (And the links that sprang up from in iin the last 48 hrs….), one can easily develop a full appreciation as to why. But as I’ve said in these spaces previously, shortcutting that mind changing process doesn’t help us toward the goal. If government at some level… any level… is necessary, one cannot simply ignore it on the basis of a disagreement with one law or another. Because if that’s done as a matter of routine, government becomes impotent and unable to perform its function in those areas where it is necessary.

    And that assumes the purist argument that drug laws are unnecessary. That is an argument, which I do not share. Nor do the majority of the American people. Like it or not, those are the minds you’re going to have to change, if you want to get where you claim you like to be. If the goal is to keep that necessary evil in check, then minds are going to have to be changed and educated for the purpose.

    Jury nullification isn’t the way, pard. Sorry.

  • Oh, speaking of Q&O, Bruce notes that the Democrats are starting to use Hillary Clinton as a foil for Sarah Palin. This is like a bad sequel…

    The Obama campaign’s initial reaction was to go after her directly by questioning her credentials and experience. That blew up in their face when such question created the opportunity for Republicans to redirect such questions against Obama’s credentials and experience while reminding everyone that Palin was the bottom of the Republican ticket while Obama stood atop of the Democratic ticket.Democratic smear merchants then attacked her family by spreading vicious and unsubstantiated rumors (all of which turned out to be false). That too has blown up in their face and removed from their quiver of complaints any mention of “right-wing smear” for at least the remainder of this election.

    It appears, now, that the dust is beginning to settle a bit, that the Obama campaign has decided on a new approach. First, it will back off on the Palin criticism. In addition to the problems it creates for Obama, it keeps a very attractive Republican candidate in the spotlight when they do.

    But they still have to find a way to counter the excitement Palin’s selection has created among undecided women who aren’t all that hung-up on the abortion question but are buzzed about seeing a woman included on a major party ticket.

    The simple and cynical answer? Deploy Clinton.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton has no intention of becoming a Sarah Palin attack dog — but has no qualms about going after John McCain, people close to the former first lady say.

    “She’s not the answer when it comes to winning conservative women — she never was — and we’re not going to be anybody’s attack dog against Sarah Palin,” said a Clinton insider. “To be fair to Obama’s people, they haven’t asked us to do that.”

    Slamming Palin to win back women already hostile to Obama is pointless, the insider said, because Clinton’s most loyal base is working-class voters, not women in particular. “Attacking Palin is checkers, attacking McCain on the economy is chess.”

    Clinton will continue to yoke McCain and Palin to President Bush on pocketbook issues. But sources say that Clinton, who supports abortion rights, isn’t likely to criticize the Alaska governor for her anti-abortion stance. She may, however, question Palin’s record on equal-pay issues.

    If Clinton does that, she may be effective.

    Hillary... a weapon that will always return at an inopportune moment

    Hillary... a weapon that will always return at an inopportune moment

    Yeah, maybe. But I doubt it. She’s got far too much baggage for one thing. For another, every time the Obama camp has tried to attack Palin, it’s blown up in their faces. Employing Clinton as an attack dog officially attaches her to the Obama camp… and thereby any attacks she makes, sponsored or unsponsored, places the blame for such attacks at the feet of Obama. And frankly, her being something of a loose cannon makes her more dangerous to Obama’s White House chances, than Palin is, even absent the rest of it.  There’s this, too; Obama using Clinton for ANY role, seems to me a desperation move. .. a Hail Mary… and you don’t use a play like that unless you’re desperate. Obama’s people tried to keep Clinton out of it because he knows the Clintons are a danger to him. The degree of desperation was evident at the off… and now is amplified by this move to engage Clinton despite the dangers.

  • About those attacks on Palin; Let’s see if we can tie together a bunch of the attacks; All of which have backfired on the Democrat party, by way of a list Chas Martin created last week:
    1. Yes, she is Governor of Alaska. No, she’s not the Lieutenant Governor. No, she’s not currently Mayor of Wasilla. Yes, she was Mayor of Wasilla, some years ago.
    2. Yes, as Governor of Alaska, she’s the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard. And yes, her professional military subordinate is quite impressed with her in that role.
    3. And yes, the New York Times says the job of Governor of Alaska is one of the harder, and more powerful, jobs in state government.
    4. Yes, there are people in Alaska who think she’s too liberal.
    5. Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, it was the same Lyda Green who tried to force a scheduling conflict that would make Palin miss her son’s high school graduation. Yes, this would also be the Lyda Green who complained no one had asked her about Palin during the vetting process.
    6. Yes, she did push for and approve the Wasilla Sports Center. Yes, it did cost a lot of money. (People keep saying $20 million, that article says $14.5 million, but then they also added a $1.2 million dollar food service/kitchen piece. This year, since Palin was out of office as Mayor.) Yes, the city went into debt to do it (how did you buy your house, bunkie?) and raised the city sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay for it. Yes, the city is paying it off early.
    7. Yes, she did want authority to have wolves culled from the air, because they were taking too many moose and caribou. Which people hunt for food in the back country in Alaska. No, she isn’t shooting them herself. I mean, not that she couldn’t, but I’m sure she doesn’t have time. (Thanks to bluemerlin in the comments.)
    8. No, the Downs baby (Trig) isn’t Bristol’s kid, and no, the kid wasn’t born with Downs because (a) Palin flew on an airplane (b) went home to have the baby after an amniotic leak (c) because he was the result of incest between Todd Palin and Bristol.
    9. No, Track (the kid who is leaving for Iraq) didn’t join the NG because he was a drug addict. He may have joined the NG because he was tired of people saying his Mom was getting him into the good hockey leagues. (Yes, that one was original reporting. I’ve got sources in Wasilla.)
    10. No, Willow and Piper aren’t named for witches on TV. Among other things, Willow was born before Buffy came on TV, and Piper was born before Charmed.
    11. Yes, Trig’s name may be misspelled. Isn’t it usually “Tryg” as in “Trygve”? In any case, I doubt he’s named for the Secretary General of the UN (1948-1952), either. But at least that was before he was born, unlike the others.
    12. Yes, it appears that she has a Big Dipper tattooed on her ankle. She lost a bet.
    13. No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God knows I get enough google hits on those very topics.) I would think the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway.
    14. No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up.
    15. No she wasn’t a member of the (wild-eyed libertarian) Alaska independence Party, although her husband once was
    16. No, neither the (Canadian) National Post, nor Marc Armbinder at the Atlantic have troubled themselves to issue a correction. Yes, the New York Times did finally correct their story of September 1 — on September 5. This was after Elizabeth Bumiller was quoted by Howard Kurtz as saying she was “completely confident about the story.” Yes, that was after the New York Times’s source retracted the story. Yes, this should embarrass the Times, Bumiller, and Howard Kurtz. No, there have been no signs of embarrassment.
    17. No, she was never a Pat Buchanan supporter; even when Buchanan claims she was, she was on the board of Steve Forbes’a campaign in Alaska.
    18. No, she’s not anti-semitic. In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her office. (Contrary to popular belief, the usual Evangelical thinks Israel has a right to exist, granted by God.)
    19. No, I don’t think she’s being “indoctrinated by Lieberman and AIPAC as we speak”; I don’t get the feeling that being indoctrinated is something that Palin does well.
    20. Yes, it seems unlikely that she’s going to be in hiding for the next two weeks seeing as she’s been in rallies twice in the last two days. Or at least it’s going to be real rough, given that she has three media interviews scheduled today (6 September) alone.
    21. Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on Christians in the US.
    22. Yes, I do sometimes wonder about the state of Andrew’s health.
    23. No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.'” (Ever hear the phrase “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?) Yes, this apparently freaks some people right out.
    24. No, Buchanan doesn’t support her now; in fact he’s supporting Obama. (Buchanan did think her speech was amazing, but then so do 80 percent of the people who saw it.) Or maybe not. Buchanan sure doesn’t like McCain though.
    25. Yes, she was apparently pregnant when she got married
    26. No, so far there’s no confirmation she had an affair while she was married, and they’ve denied it pretty strongly. No, she wouldn’t be the first Christian woman who got a little on the side, if it were true.
    27. No, she wasn’t named as a co-respondent in a divorce; there’s no evidence she had an affair with her husbands’ business partner. The partner tried to have his divorce records sealed because he was being harrassed by journalists who used them to get his phone number.
    28. Yes, barring immaculate conception virgin birth (whatever), Bristol appears to have had sex with her fiancee. No, Bristol didn’t receive only “abstinence-only” sex ed.
    29. Yes, I have it on reliable report that Sarah Levi’s mom has been heard screaming “Way to go Levi!” at her future son-in-law son. No, it doesn’t appear to have been when Bristol broke the news to her family.
      Note: I originally understood this story to be about Sarah, not Levi’s mom, in the context of hockey games. As such, it’s shouldn’t be in a Sarah Palin Rumors story, but I like the story too much to delete it.
    30. yes, her 17 year old daughter is pregnant; no, the baby’s father is not an eighth grader; no, having sex at 16 is not statutory rape in Alaska. And no, there’s no way that a 17 year old can be 5 months pregnant as a result of having sex before she was 16. Learn to count for God’s sakes.
    31. yes, she did fire the public safety guy — but he said in the Anchorage paper that, for the record, she never, and no one else in her administration ever, tried to make him fire her ex-brother-in-law
    32. and yes, the state trooper (her sister’s ex-husband) she was worried about did: tase her 10 year old nephew; drive his state patrol car while drinking or drunk; did threaten to “bring her down”; and did threaten to murder her father and sister if they dared to get an attorney to help with the divorce.
    33. yes, the state trooper was suspended when he was put under a court protective order
    34. no, the trooper wasn’t fired
    35. yes, she did fire the Wasilla Chief of Police as Mayor; yes, it was because he was lying to the City Council.
    36. Yes, she did try to cut her own salary as Mayor by $4000 a year; yes, she had voted against the $4000 a year raise while on the City Council.
    37. No, she didn’t cut funding for unwed mothers; yes, she did increase it by “only” 354 percent instead of 454 percent, as part of a multi-year capital expenditures program. No, the Washington Post doesn’t appear to have corrected their story. Even after this was pointed out in the comments on the story.
    38. No, she didn’t cut special needs student funding; yes, she did raise it by “only” 175 percent.
    39. yes, she did try, clearly unsuccessfully, to get Bristol married off to her fiancee before the story came out
    40. yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also the girlfriend of the Chief of police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute
    41. No the list of books she wanted to ban that’s being passed around isn’t real; among other things, it includes a number of books published after her time in office there.
    42. No, that hasn’t actually deterred people from claiming it really is true even if the list isn’t correct. For example:
      “This list might not in fact reflect the books Sarah Palin wanted banned. As more than one person in Comments has pointed out, some of them were not published when Palin was in office. It is my hope that the mainstream media will not let this story drop and that at some point an actual list will surface. The very thought of having someone who once advocated book-banning possibly occupying one of the highest offices of our land fills me with profound dread. It should fill you with dread too.”
    43. No, I don’t understand why a fake list is supposed to fill me with dread, either.
    44. no, it wasn’t a shotgun wedding; Bristol and Levi been engaged for a good while according to his mother. It was either an accident or just an unconventional order.
    45. yes, she’s an was an Assembly of God Holy Roller. No, she doesn’t attend an AoG church now. Yes, she did leave the AoG because they were getting too weird for her.
    46. No, she’s not anti-Mormon. No, not all AoG churches are anti-Mormon. (AoG is even more hard-core about allowing each pastor and congregation to make their own decisions than the Baptists are.) (Thanks to AnonAmom in the comments.)
    47. No, she’s not from another planet. No, I haven’t actually heard that one yet, but you wait.
    48. yes, she apparently believes in some variant of Intelligent Design
    49. no, she didn’t try to force the schools to teach it; she said if someone brought it up, it was an appropriate subject for debate.
    50. No, she doesn’t believe in “abstinence only” education. Yes, she thinks abstinence is an effective way of preventing pregnancy. Duh. Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.
    51. Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
    52. yes, she kills animals and eats them, and wears their skins
    53. yes, she was a beauty contest contestant
    54. yes, she was once a sportscaster
    55. yes, she has a college degree in Journalism, but I won’t hold that against her, as she seems to have found honest work as well
    56. yes, she sometimes wears her hair up; no that’s not a “beehive”
    57. yes, her husband is Not A White Person (he’s a Yup’ik; an Eskimo but not an Inuit as my Inuit cousins have taken some pains to explain)
    58. yes, she has on occasion, as Mayor, tried to get money from the federal government.
    59. yes, she did finally turn down the money for the bridge. Yes, that meant changing her mind about it.
    60. yes, she was vetted extensively, not just in three days — I’ve got links to press reports about people coming to Wassila on 29 May, and we had her on our Veepstakes at PJM from the first day we ran it.
    61. yes, she want to a bunch of colleges before getting a degree. No, that’s not illegal. Yes, she seems to have made something of herself anyway.
    62. no, they didn’t talk to a lot of the R’s power structure during the vetting; that probably has to do with the fact that she beat them in elections and sent a bunch of them to jail.
    63. Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter. Duh. No, none of Obama’s, McCain’s, nor Biden’s speeches were impromptu off the cuff things either.
    64. Yes, she did put the Governors plane on eBay. No, that’s not how it was finally sold. Yes, McCain did say it wrong. Bad McCain.
    65. No, Sarah Palin doesn’t have such control of Alaskans that people are afraid to say bad things about her. (What, are you nuts? Look at this list.) No, I don’t think it’s likely that she called Obama “Sambo”. (Good God, man, I’m ten years older than she and I barely remember “Little Black Sambo.”) Yes, it seems unlikely to me that she’s be real racist and marry a Yup’ik (or a part Yup’ik.) But yes, people are capable of amazing things. Yes, I’m sure there are people who don’t like her — I’ve talked with some myself. And no, I don’t think this waitress would have been thrilled to be called an “aboriginal”. And yes, if she called Hillary a “bitch”, I’m pretty confident is wasn’t the first time anyone in politics has said that.
    66. No, she’s not a “global warming denier”, and when the crush dies down remind me to explain why the very phrasing “global warming denier” is anti-scientific, anti-intellectual, and a clear sign of a desire to impose your beliefs by coercion. But in the mean time, while I do believe that she has expressed some skepticism that warming is wholly human-caused, the existence of the Alaska Climate Change Sub-Cabinet and the Alaska Climate Change Strategy work demonstrate that she’s considering the problem and has brought together people more expert than she to advise her.
Gov Sarah Palin

Gov Sarah Palin

As Captain Ed says:

So far, they’ve made her out to be a slut, a b***h, a beauty-queen airhead, and an unfit mother.  She’s obviously not frigid, so that smear won’t work.  How many other demeaning gender-based slurs can they throw her way?

The result?

  • The numbers say the Republican convention was the most watched, ever.
  • Palin is more popular than Obama... or McCain, for that matter. She is now more popular than any of them. Meanwhile…
  • The image the Democrats has developed to the point where it can best be described as a toilet clog.
  • Obama is now in full retreat; Backing off on Abortion comments and on his proposed soaking the rich (Admitting it would hurt the economy), and is prone to shooting himself in the foot, these days.
  • The Democrats have exposed themselves as helpless to answer Palin and what she stands for, and as being desperate enough to pull stunts that would get them tossed out of any run for high school class president.

Gee, Barry, that was a huge PR success. What will you do for your NEXT magic trick?  Clinton?  Yeah… get Hillary to do HER slash and burn number… yeah…  that’ll work.

  • Has anyone noticed Biden playing both ends against the middle on the subject of offshore drilling? And now on Abortion? Not unlike his boss, huh?
  • Seems the state of Maryland is thikning about  outlawing sex between state officials and government employees. How, pray, do they plan to enforce such a law?  Do they really imagine that simply passing a law solves the perceived problem?
  • Quite a weekend for storms. Of course we didn’t get the camper out again. Those of you watching the Bills beat up the Seahawks know why. (Sigh)
  • A passing thought as regards Keith Olbermann… perhaps his downfall was that given the draw of the Republican convention, someone other than the full-goose-bozo left was actually paying attention. They… many of them casual Republicans.. tuned in to see the Republicans and ended up instead being served up typical Olbermann.  What you’re seeing here, people is the result of the American people as a whole, not just the leftie fringe… watching. It’s an interesting thought that Sarah Palin, who, let’s face it, drew a goodly chunck of those viewers, ends up being an agent of change even before the first vote is cast. Change in the anchor booth at MS-NBC… and any other news org who is watching what’s happening over there.

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